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		<title>Domain Patience</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back I was contacted by someone who owned a web site that was direct competition of one of my own. He was offering to sell the site to me at some absurd price because it included the domain name, site, database, decals, etc. Since I already had a similar site, so all I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back I was contacted by someone who owned a web site that was direct competition of one of my own. He was offering to sell the site to me at some absurd price because it included the domain name, site, database, decals, etc. Since I already had a similar site, so all I was interested in was redirecting the domain name to my own site. He wouldn&#8217;t part with just the domain name, even though I made an extremely fair offer. He hadn&#8217;t monetized the site, then didn&#8217;t even park the domain when he took the site down. I noticed that he let the domain name expire and that it had originally been purchased through <a href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-3240143-10378406" target="_blank">GoDaddy.com</a>. I watched <a href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/q3122kjspjr6A9B78BA687AFBDEE" target="_blank">TDNAM.com</a> for a while to see if it would pop up and never saw it.</p>
<p>I had pretty much forgotten about the domain name until today when, on a whim, I searched for it on <a href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-3240143-10378406" target="_blank">GoDaddy.com</a> and found that it was available. So, I snatched it up and, using promo code &#8220;OYH7&#8243; it was mine for under $8. Patience paid off in this case. Not only is some direct competition gone, but I got his domain name and didn&#8217;t have to pay a premium for it.</p>
<p>Let this be a lesson to those of you who have a domain name no longer in use &#8211; if someone makes a fair offer, take it, especially if you&#8217;re not going to do anything with it. Squatting only works if you&#8217;re willing to sell.</p>
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		<title>Selling Domain Names</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drivelocity</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who is constantly trying to unload old domain names, I have a great interest in this topic, but not a lot of success. I&#8217;ve only sold one domain in my time and the buyer came to me directly. Essentially, they wanted to eliminate their competition, or where their competition advertised. I have purchased [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who is constantly trying to unload old domain names, I have a great interest in this topic, but not a lot of success. I&#8217;ve only sold one domain in my time and the buyer came to me directly. Essentially, they wanted to eliminate their competition, or where their competition advertised. I have purchased a fair number of domains using <a href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/q3122kjspjr6A9B78BA687AFBDEE" target="_blank">GoDaddy&#8217;s Auction</a> service, which is convenient since they are my registrar of choice.</p>
<p><strong>Top sites for selling domains</strong> (according to <a href="http://domainnamewire.com/2009/03/10/survey-sedo-top-online-domain-sales-site/" target="_blank">this survey)</a><strong>:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.sedo.com/" target="_blank">Sedo</a> 48%</li>
<li>Forums 14%</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/q3122kjspjr6A9B78BA687AFBDEE" target="_blank">GoDaddy (TDNAM)</a> 8%</li>
<li><a href="http://www.snapnames.com/" target="_blank"><em></em></a><a href="http://affiliates.moniker.com/pub/Affiliates?affiliate_id=2677&amp;landingpage=home" target="_blank">SnapNames</a><a href="http://affiliates.moniker.com/pub/Affiliates?affiliate_id=2677&amp;landingpage=home" target="_blank"> (Moniker)</a> 7%</li>
<li><a href="http://www.afternic.com/" target="_blank">Afternic</a> 6%</li>
</ol>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em> <a href="http://www.domaindistribution.com/" target="_blank">Domain Distribution Network</a>, <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;campid=5335991921&amp;toolid=10001&amp;customid=&amp;mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fscgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FRegisterEnterInfo" target="_blank">eBay</a>, and domain newsletters each received less than 2%. </em></p>
<p><strong>Other sites you can sell domain names on:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.GreatDomains.com" target="_blank">GreatDomains.com</a> (SEDO)<a href="http://www.GreatDomains.com" target="_blank"><br />
</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.aftermarket.com" target="_blank">Aftermarket.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/" target="_blank">SitePoint.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.buydomains.com/" target="_blank">BuyDomains.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.impressivedomains.com/" target="_blank">ImpressiveDomains.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.websitebroker.com/" target="_blank">WebSiteBroker.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.yourdomaintrade.com/" target="_blank">YourDomainTrade.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.NamePros.com" target="_blank">NamePros.com</a></li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Top ten most valuable domain names </strong>(amount paid)<strong>:<br />
</strong></p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://Sex.com" target="_blank">Sex.com</a> $14 million 	2006</li>
<li><a href="http://Fund.com" target="_blank">Fund.com</a> $9.9 million 	2008</li>
<li><a href="http://Porn.com" target="_blank">Porn.com</a> $9 million 	2007</li>
<li><a href="http://Business.com">Business.com</a> $7.5 million 	1999</li>
<li><a href="http://Diamonds.com" target="_blank">Diamonds.com</a> $7.5 million 	2006</li>
<li><a href="http://Beer.com" target="_blank">Beer.com</a> $7 million 	2004</li>
<li><a href="http://Casino.com" target="_blank">Casino.com</a> $5.5 million 	2003</li>
<li><a href="http://AsSeenOnTV.com">AsSeenOnTV.com</a> $5.1 million 	2000</li>
<li><a href="http://Korea.com" target="_blank">Korea.com</a> $5 million 	2000</li>
<li><a href="http://SEO.com" target="_blank">SEO.com</a> $5 million 	2007</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Use an Escrow Service:</strong></p>
<p>So, what do you do if you&#8217;re buying a high priced domain name, or want to sell a domain name directly to a buyer? I strongly suggest using an escrow service such as <a href="http://affiliates.moniker.com/pub/Affiliates?affiliate_id=2677&amp;landingpage=escrow" target="_blank">Moniker&#8217;s escrow service</a>, or <a href="http://www.escrow.com" target="_blank">Escrow.com</a> in order to protect yourself from fraud. They will facilitate the deal in which each party must agree to and complete each step prior to the transfer of domain and money taking place.</p>
<p><strong>Domain Appraisal Service:</strong></p>
<p>While the actual value of a domain is likely to be somewhere between the perceived value and an appraised value, an appraisal can be a valuable asset in garnering interest in a domain you are trying to sell. Your domain is only worth what someone is willing to pay and you could be in for a serious disappointment if you price your domain too high. Try using <a href="http://affiliates.moniker.com/pub/Affiliates?affiliate_id=2677&amp;landingpage=appraisal" target="_blank">Moniker&#8217;s domain appraisal service</a> to get an idea of where you stand. <a href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/q3122kjspjr6A9B78BA687AFBDEE" target="_blank">GoDaddy</a> offers one as well.</p>
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		<title>GoDaddy&#8217;s DomainsByProxy Service is BS</title>
		<link>http://drivelocity.com/on-the-web/godaddys-domainsbyproxy-service-is-bs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drivelocity</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had all but forgotten an incident involving the DomainsByProxy.com service provided by GoDaddy.com until I read a post about a bad GoDaddy&#8217;s experience at SapientSoft.com that reminded me of my own&#8230; A few years ago I ran a site and, for personal reasons, wanted the WHOIS information to remain private. Since I had registered [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had all but forgotten an incident involving the DomainsByProxy.com service provided by GoDaddy.com until I read a post about a bad GoDaddy&#8217;s experience at <a href="http://sapientsoft.com/?p=410" target="_blank">SapientSoft.com</a> that reminded me of my own&#8230;</p>
<p>A few years ago I ran a site and, for personal reasons, wanted the WHOIS information to remain private. Since I had registered the domain name through GoDaddy.com, I decided to take advantage of their DomainsByProxy.com service for $10/year. The sole purpose of their service is to act as an intermediary, while keeping your contact information private, all for a yearly fee. Please keep in mind that I don&#8217;t have any issues with GoDaddy&#8217;s registration services and use it regularly. Actually, I do get annoyed by their overzealous upselling, but that&#8217;s another issue entirely.</p>
<p>So, I had my domain registered, my info private, site up and running and one day I get an email from DomainsByProxy.com stating that they charged me $20 for a baseless inquiry made into the aforementioned domain. There was nothing in the terms that I agreed to that applied to this charge, and the charge was not authorized by me. When I emailed DomainsByProxy.com, most of my attempts were ignored.</p>
<p><span id="more-627"></span>A domain proxy service exists for the sole intention of acting as an intermediary and for keeping customers&#8217; information private. With DomainsByProxy.com, if someone wanted to contact a domain owner they would send an email to something like &#8220;yourdomain@domainsbyproxy.com.&#8221; The email would then be forwarded to the domain owner. If the domain owner fails to take action, the proxy service may be legally bound to release the contact information in some cases.</p>
<p>Anything that transpired in this case  goes against our agreement and the whole reasoning behind a proxy service. They clearly state (see below) that there may be fees for anything beyond email correspondence, which there was not. The question of what is &#8220;reasonable&#8221; is nullified by the fact that this was within the scope of its regular services and/or all correspondence was handled over email.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>DBP reserves the right to charge a reasonable service fee for administrative tasks outside the scope of its regular services. These include, but are not limited to, customer service issues that cannot be handled over email but require personal service, and disputes that require legal services&#8230;. </em></p>
<p>I retained a copy of the Domain Name Proxy Agreement and nowhere does it contain a &#8220;20&#8243; or &#8220;twenty&#8221; dollar fee. However, the following is from their FAQ:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>What are Domains By Proxy&#8217;s shipping and handling fees?<br />
When Domains By Proxy receives certified or traceable courier mail or legal notices addressed to your domain that requires forwarding, we post an e-mail message to your Domains By Proxy account under the &#8220;My Messages&#8221; page. The message identifies the sender of the correspondence, the date we received it and a brief description of its contents. You have 72 hours to decide whether you wish to reject the correspondence or have it forwarded via overnight courier or facsimile (or both).</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>- If you choose to have the correspondence faxed, the charge is $1.50 per page plus a handling fee of $20.00.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>- If you choose to have the correspondence sent via overnight courier, the charge is the courier&#8217;s cost (typically Federal Express standard overnight) plus a handling fee of $20.00.</em></p>
<p>After finding this, I logged into my DomainsByProxy.com account and there was nothing under &#8220;My Messages&#8221; and I never asked for anything to be delivered via overnight courier. Additionally, I never received anything via UPS, FedEx, or any other courier service. There was only an email correspondence, which is excluded from any additional fees and falls within their scope of business.</p>
<p>As for the unauthorized credit card charge, let me explain it simply &#8211; I did not authorize the use of the credit card for this charge. There was no invoice or bill. The credit card was to be used once, but GoDaddy.com retained the information in their system and out of all the options available, used that one. All credit card information has since been removed, as far as I can tell. Aside from that purchase, I primarily use PayPal for domain purchases.</p>
<p>When this was all said and done, I was out $20 and DomainsByProxy.com lost a customer. I cancelled the service on three domains ($30/year) and spread the word. And, now that I have another outlet, I&#8217;m spreading it some more&#8230; As for the legal issue, there wasn&#8217;t one. The claim was baseless and I went on with my business, never hearing about this again. I later decided to let the domain name and web site go, which I now regret, because I was getting inundated with spam and had too many things on my plate at the time, not that I have any less now.</p>
<p><strong>The moral of the story:</strong></p>
<p>DomainsByProxy.com is a useless and costly service that is not intended to protect its users whatsoever. You are much better off using a post office box, or some other unidentifiable information to register your domain names, if you need the privacy.</p>
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